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South Africa :
Reading the newspapers today makes me so irritated and angry! The headlines, as so often before is about Robert Mugabe. This time Mugabe’s alleged master plan for state terror is leaked and the international press has picked it up as yet another sensation. What the hell is so sensational about this? With a physical form, it would have been visible from the moon and outshined the Great Wall of China and the Great Barrier Reef for years.
People I’ve spoken to ahead of the recent bogus elections in Zimbabwe all expressed great hope. Things were looking very positive, and hopes were rising for a new leader and a new start for Zimbabwe. People honestly believed that this would be the end of Mugabe’s reign?! Sorry, I did not share that optimism! Lots of people can confirm that... they probably labelled me a negative old fart! There were no riots ahead of the election because Mugabe’s weeding and killing of resistance over years has been very successful. No doubt he lost that election, but could he really step down? That’s the question I’ve been asking everybody. 98% of the population wants to tear his guts out, and no prison could keep the mob away if he agreed to step down peacefully. Mugabe knows this better than anybody, so he will use whatever means to stay in power… and die in power. As would I if I was in his shoes!
No, my anger and irritation is not about Mugabe’s wrong doings!! It’s about all the ignorant people around that find this shocking and sensational. Am I the only one that is not surprised? Are people really that stupid??!! I must really be gifted and clairvoyant! With such high intelligence and insight it’s hard for me to deal with the ignorance and stupidity of ordinary laymen that pollutes the air around me. That’s really the only explanation that is clear to me this morning!!
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The probelm being that when Mugabe shuffles off his mortal coil, whether he jumps or if he is pushed, there are so many others of his ilk that are banging on the door to take his place.
Emmerson Mnangagwa is the current #1 choice (Mugabe’s choice) - though I see him as a much more meek person - his is still capable of having the Zimbabwean people on the mat in double quick time.
Another one to watch is the current chief of the army - Constantine Chiwenga (and his vicious wife, Jocelyn) - these are two people who will kill just to stay ahead of the crowd.
The answer to Zimbabwe is a clean break from ZANU PF.
Followed by a re-entry into the international community - and, of course, some SERIOUS rebuilding, not only physically, but also of some relationships...
Take care.
Robb WJ Ellis
The Bearded Man
Emmerson Mnangagwa is the current #1 choice (Mugabe’s choice) - though I see him as a much more meek person - his is still capable of having the Zimbabwean people on the mat in double quick time.
Another one to watch is the current chief of the army - Constantine Chiwenga (and his vicious wife, Jocelyn) - these are two people who will kill just to stay ahead of the crowd.
The answer to Zimbabwe is a clean break from ZANU PF.
Followed by a re-entry into the international community - and, of course, some SERIOUS rebuilding, not only physically, but also of some relationships...
Take care.
Robb WJ Ellis
The Bearded Man
(Global Perspectives)
Grace!
If so many people have accepted that he is the devil on earth... why is it that nobody is doing anything?? The quiet diplomacy from Thabo Mbeki and South Africa is a big laugh and a daily joke for all South Africans... Why can’t somebody else step in?? There are only bystanders as I see it... and they don’t want to get their hands dirty... and thus thousands of people will get killed every year!
If so many people have accepted that he is the devil on earth... why is it that nobody is doing anything?? The quiet diplomacy from Thabo Mbeki and South Africa is a big laugh and a daily joke for all South Africans... Why can’t somebody else step in?? There are only bystanders as I see it... and they don’t want to get their hands dirty... and thus thousands of people will get killed every year!
(Local Perspectives)
Mugabe is an enigma to me so much so that I just scratch my brow and say that dictators seem to have a franchise on luck! If you look at the rise of Mugabe and ZANU PF, you would see that it really wasn’t out of the politically ordinary. No mindboggling twist of events there.
So, I shall revise my viewpoint and now say that people get the government that they deserve. It’s a cruel thing to say with what’s happening in Zimbabwe right now, but the present regime is already something that has gotten out of hand.
In the early years of Mugabe, the people of Zimbabwe must have helped create the monster. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have hit the jackpot that easy.
Maybe, it was because he once was a hero and basked in his 15 minutes of fame as the famed freedom fighter. He used that fame to metamorphose into the monster that he is now.
I’ve said it before, Mugabe is a figurehead, a (talking)head of a military junta. You are right. The only way to eliminate Mugabe is to eliminate the ZANU PF. The opposing party’s strategy is quite wrong, in the face of things. But that’s the only thing that can be done, awaiting June 27.
No one can run against Mugabe neck-on-neck.
So, I shall revise my viewpoint and now say that people get the government that they deserve. It’s a cruel thing to say with what’s happening in Zimbabwe right now, but the present regime is already something that has gotten out of hand.
In the early years of Mugabe, the people of Zimbabwe must have helped create the monster. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have hit the jackpot that easy.
Maybe, it was because he once was a hero and basked in his 15 minutes of fame as the famed freedom fighter. He used that fame to metamorphose into the monster that he is now.
I’ve said it before, Mugabe is a figurehead, a (talking)head of a military junta. You are right. The only way to eliminate Mugabe is to eliminate the ZANU PF. The opposing party’s strategy is quite wrong, in the face of things. But that’s the only thing that can be done, awaiting June 27.
No one can run against Mugabe neck-on-neck.
(Global Perspectives)
Robb!
You are right... whether it’s Mnangagwa or Chiwenga... they are queuing up like Hyenas to take power and carry on the same way!
Arrest me if I’m wrong... but I fail to see one positive example throughout Africa. The list of despots in Africa is endless... and includes terrorists and mass murderers. Do you think they can ever rule themselves?? Sure Nelson Mandela was a small light in all the darkness... but his long walk to freedom has turned to desperate escape from the country!!
You are right... whether it’s Mnangagwa or Chiwenga... they are queuing up like Hyenas to take power and carry on the same way!
Arrest me if I’m wrong... but I fail to see one positive example throughout Africa. The list of despots in Africa is endless... and includes terrorists and mass murderers. Do you think they can ever rule themselves?? Sure Nelson Mandela was a small light in all the darkness... but his long walk to freedom has turned to desperate escape from the country!!
(Local Perspectives)
The only way out is to force Mugabe to accept a safe passage out of the country for a while and let the democratically elected parties to take charge. But this can be enforced only by a co-ordinated effort of leaders of the neighboring countries, with the support of the U.N.
(Global Perspectives)
Paulraj!
Sure, but the same thing could be said years ago, so what’s different today??!! You talk about co-ordinated efforts from neighboring countries... Well South Africas Thabo Mbeki is leading international efforts to confront Mugabe, and his quiet diplomacy is the biggest joke of all! Other African leaders salute Mugabe as a hero in meetings with the UN... especially when he can lash out at earlier colonizers! Your suggestions have proved a big failure for years!!!
Sure, but the same thing could be said years ago, so what’s different today??!! You talk about co-ordinated efforts from neighboring countries... Well South Africas Thabo Mbeki is leading international efforts to confront Mugabe, and his quiet diplomacy is the biggest joke of all! Other African leaders salute Mugabe as a hero in meetings with the UN... especially when he can lash out at earlier colonizers! Your suggestions have proved a big failure for years!!!
(Local Perspectives)
Grace!
You got your history right, and I think you’re mostly right. But awaiting June 27th is just such a sad thing. Like you said... what will change in the upcoming runoff election??? Duh... Mugabe will of course crook it or ignore it... one way or the other! It doesn’t change a thing!
From your post however... it struck me how lucrative it is to be a dictator! I’m actually quite tempted to find my own little hottentot nation... and buy support(protection) from the local army, it’s that easy!!
You got your history right, and I think you’re mostly right. But awaiting June 27th is just such a sad thing. Like you said... what will change in the upcoming runoff election??? Duh... Mugabe will of course crook it or ignore it... one way or the other! It doesn’t change a thing!
From your post however... it struck me how lucrative it is to be a dictator! I’m actually quite tempted to find my own little hottentot nation... and buy support(protection) from the local army, it’s that easy!!
(Local Perspectives)
You first have to learn how to growl, grimace, and snarl quite believably before the cameras, as you sure will hog headlines around the world!
Then set your anti-West rants in stone.
Next, have a wife who always wears chic sunglasses.
It would help if you studied in some Catholic university in your salad days.
Then, hire some very good PR for whatever piece of freedom fighting you had had, waaaaay baaack.
Voila! We would be solving your puzzle as we are doing now in Instablogs!
Hahahaha!
Then set your anti-West rants in stone.
Next, have a wife who always wears chic sunglasses.
It would help if you studied in some Catholic university in your salad days.
Then, hire some very good PR for whatever piece of freedom fighting you had had, waaaaay baaack.
Voila! We would be solving your puzzle as we are doing now in Instablogs!
Hahahaha!
(Global Perspectives)
@ Paulraj
The UN is frail in this. It has been. Other leaders of African nations have tons of problems themselves.”Kill ’em all” really means that if you shoot Mugabe, it’s like shooting millions of civilians, as the junta is sure to retaliate - at the people.
Negotiations in situations such as this has never worked, either.
Maybe, the next step should be to stop focusing on Mugabe (as he is just the junta’s figurehead), and start cracking down the ZANU PF. I don’t know how that can be done but that becomes a political move that can utilize political solutions.
The UN is frail in this. It has been. Other leaders of African nations have tons of problems themselves.”Kill ’em all” really means that if you shoot Mugabe, it’s like shooting millions of civilians, as the junta is sure to retaliate - at the people.
Negotiations in situations such as this has never worked, either.
Maybe, the next step should be to stop focusing on Mugabe (as he is just the junta’s figurehead), and start cracking down the ZANU PF. I don’t know how that can be done but that becomes a political move that can utilize political solutions.
(Global Perspectives)
Cracking down on ZANU PF with force is the surest way at this moment to plunge Zimbabwe into an all-consuming inferno of violence.
(Global Perspectives)
Hi Jonny,
Any plan that may make Mugabe and his coterie suspicious of their post-’retirement’ safety, both physical and monetary, wouldn’t take us anywhere. Covertly permitting and supporting the pro-democracy activists to eliminate the president is fundamentally wrong. Let there be no idea of punishing him for his mistakes. It will surely lead the country into an era of violence and counter-violence and democracy will only remain a foreign word to the Zimbabweans forever.
Armed interference by an international force may help. But, we will have to be ready to see reports of violence in Zimbabwe on the first page of newspapers for many years.
Any plan that may make Mugabe and his coterie suspicious of their post-’retirement’ safety, both physical and monetary, wouldn’t take us anywhere. Covertly permitting and supporting the pro-democracy activists to eliminate the president is fundamentally wrong. Let there be no idea of punishing him for his mistakes. It will surely lead the country into an era of violence and counter-violence and democracy will only remain a foreign word to the Zimbabweans forever.
Armed interference by an international force may help. But, we will have to be ready to see reports of violence in Zimbabwe on the first page of newspapers for many years.
(Global Perspectives)
Grace!
Will focusing on Zanu PF change anything as long as Mugabe has full control? Maybe we need an international police with mandate to sort things out with force?
Will focusing on Zanu PF change anything as long as Mugabe has full control? Maybe we need an international police with mandate to sort things out with force?
(Local Perspectives)
I’m not sure if there is indeed an international police. That’s supposed to be the UN, but the UN is frail in Zimbabwe. It enforces UN laws. No deaths are directly linked to Mugabe at this moment, so there’s nothing yet that the UN can cuff him on.
And Mugabe is so wise as to not be directly linked to bloodshed. He is avoiding that. Because he knows that that will be his end, or near-end.
But he has threatened to retaliate with force if he is toppled, so that being his last trump card, it is clear that he is running out of options now.
And Mugabe is so wise as to not be directly linked to bloodshed. He is avoiding that. Because he knows that that will be his end, or near-end.
But he has threatened to retaliate with force if he is toppled, so that being his last trump card, it is clear that he is running out of options now.
(Global Perspectives)
Paulraj!
We are not talking about mistakes here! It’s slaughter and mass murder... and we’ve got an international court for these things! This is beyond mistakes my friend!!
The reports of violence has already been there for years... one sided! Mugabe giving all the beating, so that’s business as usual also :-)
We are not talking about mistakes here! It’s slaughter and mass murder... and we’ve got an international court for these things! This is beyond mistakes my friend!!
The reports of violence has already been there for years... one sided! Mugabe giving all the beating, so that’s business as usual also :-)
(Local Perspectives)
Sadly, yeah... The only way to crack it down is through force. But it’s like the people of Zimbabwe are hostages at the moment. Ram the gates and the people die. ”Kill ’em all!” If foreign forces pounce on Mugabe and ZANU PF, innocent civilians will die.
Of course, a civil war will surely ensue, then the rise of militia, and then a long drawn armed struggle.
It is a very dark corner of this earth that people ridiculously call a democracy.
Of course, a civil war will surely ensue, then the rise of militia, and then a long drawn armed struggle.
It is a very dark corner of this earth that people ridiculously call a democracy.
(Global Perspectives)
Grace!!
Fear not, coz I will have a palace with a ballroom full of mirrors. Nothing less than the palace in Versailles I believe :-) If my underlings are not too bothersome, I will have plenty of time to practice in fron to the mirrors!!
I have all my old comrades lined up of course, covering all the important posts. They have orders to tell all westerners to go to a certain place where pepper grows, lol! Then I will in fact become a catholic as I see many benefits... I can just confess my sins to my priest friend and start a new day with clean sheets :-)
See, my master plan is set!!
Fear not, coz I will have a palace with a ballroom full of mirrors. Nothing less than the palace in Versailles I believe :-) If my underlings are not too bothersome, I will have plenty of time to practice in fron to the mirrors!!
I have all my old comrades lined up of course, covering all the important posts. They have orders to tell all westerners to go to a certain place where pepper grows, lol! Then I will in fact become a catholic as I see many benefits... I can just confess my sins to my priest friend and start a new day with clean sheets :-)
See, my master plan is set!!
(Local Perspectives)
Oh, don’t forget the power suits from Savile Row! You’ve got to have closets full of them as you will need several costume changes for all the photo ops.
And a wife who grimaces as much as you do is also a prerequisite.
I swear, Mugabe is cashing in on the stereotype!
:):):)
And a wife who grimaces as much as you do is also a prerequisite.
I swear, Mugabe is cashing in on the stereotype!
:):):)
(Global Perspectives)
Paulraj!
There is no easy way I believe! Cracking down on Mugabe or Zanu PF is just as personal for the man in question! It’s all about him at the end of the day.
Mugabes armies have promised war no matter how Mugabe is removed. There is no stepping down alternative for them...
Fight fire with fire is my prescribed remedy in this case!
There is no easy way I believe! Cracking down on Mugabe or Zanu PF is just as personal for the man in question! It’s all about him at the end of the day.
Mugabes armies have promised war no matter how Mugabe is removed. There is no stepping down alternative for them...
Fight fire with fire is my prescribed remedy in this case!
(Local Perspectives)
Grace!
The wife is already in place! As we will have plenty of food crises under my rule, we will travel extensively around the world on food crisis seminars... so that we can do all our shopping, power suits and sunglasses included :-)
The wife is already in place! As we will have plenty of food crises under my rule, we will travel extensively around the world on food crisis seminars... so that we can do all our shopping, power suits and sunglasses included :-)
(Local Perspectives)
Make her your poster girl for hunger to underscore the crisis! It pays of course if she’s emaciated like Grace Mugabe (OMG! my namesake!). Then, start her up now on the attitude of having the utmost contempt for the starving millions. :)
(Global Perspectives)
Good Gracious! LOL
I have no Grace, but can assure you that her name and mine will kick Grace and Mugabe off that throne. Our names will be so negatively loaded that Mugabe will be forgotten in seconds. Contempt will be our royal middle names! He will be an angel in comparison :-)
Oh yes of course! We will both receive honourable doctorates for our fight against... whatever bad things people claim (in error of course) happens in our country!
I have no Grace, but can assure you that her name and mine will kick Grace and Mugabe off that throne. Our names will be so negatively loaded that Mugabe will be forgotten in seconds. Contempt will be our royal middle names! He will be an angel in comparison :-)
Oh yes of course! We will both receive honourable doctorates for our fight against... whatever bad things people claim (in error of course) happens in our country!
(Local Perspectives)
Oh, don’t take any law degree at the University of Massachusetts because they will revoke it years on! :):)
Good luck to your plans! Looks like you’ve got everything down pat. Throw me a diamond or two when you’ve conquered Pretoria! :)
Good luck to your plans! Looks like you’ve got everything down pat. Throw me a diamond or two when you’ve conquered Pretoria! :)
(Global Perspectives)
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File Type: ImageFighting fire with fire is more like it. Match Mugabe’s every move with a like move.
The problem is simple. Mugabe has had 28 years start on everybody. Whatever is done - it has been thought of and covered.
The one thing that Mugabe doesn’t know anything about is his own mortality. He believes that he is some sort of superman and even suggested that he would go ’into the bush’ with his aging war veterans... He’s 84...
His health is not good - see photo of his swollen ankle - and it has been suggested that he is terminally ill.
The one thing that we have on our side - the side that will ultimately succeed - is time.
Patience is a virtue and in this case it will be a strength we should all be proud of... eventually.
Take care.
’debvhu
(Global Perspectives)
Robb, June 27 is 9 days away (from my side of the globe). There is no time. A civil war is about to occur. But then again, fire with fire will result in millions of collateral damage (and I mean, lives).
(Global Perspectives)
Robb!
Pleasure to receive your contributions, you have valid points!! I can conclude that we fight fire with time then, right?! (Sorry, couldn’t help it, although this is a very serious subject!)
Pleasure to receive your contributions, you have valid points!! I can conclude that we fight fire with time then, right?! (Sorry, couldn’t help it, although this is a very serious subject!)
(Local Perspectives)
Please... No bogus doctorates will be accepted. I will found my own University... known for its high standard and integrity (unparalleled anywhere!!)
Pretoria??? In cases like this, you have to think BIG! World domination the least... but Africa first!
Pretoria??? In cases like this, you have to think BIG! World domination the least... but Africa first!
(Local Perspectives)
Jonny:
Please don’t apologise. By making a joke of it, you have unearthed it’s inherent weakness.
Mugabe cares not for the people of Zimbabwe, much less the care or concern over men, women and children that live (!) in the cities and towns without food, running water, electricity.
I lived in Harare for many years - and I know now that should I return, you are talking about winding the clock back many, many years - probably give or take 50 years.
There was a time when being a Zimbabwean was a badge of honour. Something that people the world over looked up at.
Today, people hear my accent and ask where it is from - I tell them and immediately there comes a note of sympathy, of not being able to understand the events in that country.
Which proves that the world at large knows what is happening within, just that we are unsure - and incapable - of what to do to rid ourselves of not just Mugabe, but ZANU PF as a whole (hole?).
Regards
Please don’t apologise. By making a joke of it, you have unearthed it’s inherent weakness.
Mugabe cares not for the people of Zimbabwe, much less the care or concern over men, women and children that live (!) in the cities and towns without food, running water, electricity.
I lived in Harare for many years - and I know now that should I return, you are talking about winding the clock back many, many years - probably give or take 50 years.
There was a time when being a Zimbabwean was a badge of honour. Something that people the world over looked up at.
Today, people hear my accent and ask where it is from - I tell them and immediately there comes a note of sympathy, of not being able to understand the events in that country.
Which proves that the world at large knows what is happening within, just that we are unsure - and incapable - of what to do to rid ourselves of not just Mugabe, but ZANU PF as a whole (hole?).
Regards
(Global Perspectives)
Hi Grace. Fighting fire with fire may have the collateral damage, but lying in the gutter and waiting for Mugabe’s men to finish you off is utterly pointless.
Not long ago, when there was the diamond ’find’ in the Eastern Highlands in Zimbabwe, a soldier, who was meant to be protecting the mine, was arrested for doing a little mining of his own.
In court he said, ”How silly for a man to die of thirst when he is standing in a river!”
But then again, staying with the sayings: ”When you are up to your ass in crocodiles, it is very difficult to remember that the original intention was to drain the swamp!”
Regards
Not long ago, when there was the diamond ’find’ in the Eastern Highlands in Zimbabwe, a soldier, who was meant to be protecting the mine, was arrested for doing a little mining of his own.
In court he said, ”How silly for a man to die of thirst when he is standing in a river!”
But then again, staying with the sayings: ”When you are up to your ass in crocodiles, it is very difficult to remember that the original intention was to drain the swamp!”
Regards
(Global Perspectives)
That’s how it’s gonna be, in fact... Everybody knows that June 27 is just going to be sham. Some people are just waiting for it to stretch all democratic means that can be stretched. But we all know that it’s a joke.
Violence is sure to erupt. People who are already so hard up and starving are even going to die...
Violence is sure to erupt. People who are already so hard up and starving are even going to die...
(Global Perspectives)
Robb!
I have talked to lots and lots of Zimbabweans here in South Africa and currently employ two. I have noticed the high level of education on my visit to Zimbabwe myself, and talking to the Zimbabweans here. Common for all the white Zimbabweans (arrest me if I’m wrong here) is that they refer to their country as Rhodesia, a country (as you say) that was like a badge of honour!
All this uncertainty, unwillingness, unableness and incapability... isn’t that proof that you need an international body that is capable and with a mandate to do something!! Short and brutal can often be better than painful long suffering... or?
I have talked to lots and lots of Zimbabweans here in South Africa and currently employ two. I have noticed the high level of education on my visit to Zimbabwe myself, and talking to the Zimbabweans here. Common for all the white Zimbabweans (arrest me if I’m wrong here) is that they refer to their country as Rhodesia, a country (as you say) that was like a badge of honour!
All this uncertainty, unwillingness, unableness and incapability... isn’t that proof that you need an international body that is capable and with a mandate to do something!! Short and brutal can often be better than painful long suffering... or?
(Local Perspectives)
Jonny
Rhodesia was a place in time. Calling Zimbabwe ”Rhodesia” today is almost sacriligious. The two countries are as different as chalk and cheese.
I often write in my various articles that for Mugabe to have succeeded, he needed to change not one thing. Not one damned thing.
But he did. He changed something here, and another thing there. All in the name of self-enrichment.
Then his plans backfired and he found that he had to change something else to allay the fears caused by the first change, and so it began.
I get a lot of flak every day for what I write about Mugabe.
In my book ”Without Honour” I talk of actually meeting him whilst I was still serving in the Zimbabwe Republic Police in Plumtree in the mid-1980s.
My next comment I post will be a direct quote from my book detailing that meeting.
The man is a fraud.
Regards
Rhodesia was a place in time. Calling Zimbabwe ”Rhodesia” today is almost sacriligious. The two countries are as different as chalk and cheese.
I often write in my various articles that for Mugabe to have succeeded, he needed to change not one thing. Not one damned thing.
But he did. He changed something here, and another thing there. All in the name of self-enrichment.
Then his plans backfired and he found that he had to change something else to allay the fears caused by the first change, and so it began.
I get a lot of flak every day for what I write about Mugabe.
In my book ”Without Honour” I talk of actually meeting him whilst I was still serving in the Zimbabwe Republic Police in Plumtree in the mid-1980s.
My next comment I post will be a direct quote from my book detailing that meeting.
The man is a fraud.
Regards
People are not numbed by these reports as much as these uniformly-themed stories now just go over their heads.
When Mugabe gets a fatal heart attack or succumbs to death by an assassin’s bullet, now, that’s news!